CARPLAY - How is this not available in CARPLAY?

My anticipation will be that i will have ios 13 with home. And i can use my carplay to open my garage

@Dwight
Using my homekit plugin for garadget and ios 13 you will be able to open your garage. This is a simple explanation that requires more effort then you are looking for. But it is possible.

Just tried it

Dwight if you look at my response to ERIC under the header SIRI OPERATION you’ll find a better way than CarPlay using IFTTT … check it out … Its been working great for me.
Thanks
Ian

Thank you - I will try it …

Ok Thank you

I want to take just a second to thank everybody for their suggestions and work arounds. The fundamental question that has been answered is: Is why? Or chat while I appreciate your ability to go into my phone I have alerts on my iWatch - Are nice to haves… - why design a garage door opener that does not work in a Car based environment ( like Android auto and/or CarPlay - that’s first place to go… Right !!! Honestly what am I missing here?

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That developing software takes time?

The problem is that most developers don’t understand real world applications of the software… car integration should have been the first thing on the list… it is a common theme with most newish development teams and its only when they start having people who are working with the end users that this changes… its a very cool product and I have done the workaround with ifttt, but the thing developers don’t get is not everybody is technical so most people can’t set that up… CarPlay/android auto integration would open up their product to a lot more people and until this comes in, I can’t recommend the product because then I would have to spend time setting it up for people.

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I’d argue that most Home Automation solutions are geared toward the technically inclined, unless you want to spend a high dollar amount on having a professional come in or install a turn-key solution. There’s currently a HUGE market gap between the DIY’ers and non-tech savvy.

FWIW: One of the upcoming projects I’m working on is a free open-source turn-key solution, similar to Home Assistant which will bridge that gap.

To the op: The same task can be accomplished with iBeacons. This is how I currently have my Garadgets set up. A $10 Raspberry Pi Zero W in the garage listens for the $20 iBeacon in the car (and can also detect Tile with some modifications). Once detected, it runs the automation to open the door. To get more advanced automations you’ll have to wait for the aforementioned project to come to fruition.

To be fair, when garadget came out, I think in 2017, there weren’t a lot of IoT devices that even supported HomeKit. If they did, they were expensive and I believe at the time you needed a chipset from Apple. As far as Carplay is concerned, Apple didn’t even support opening Garage Doors on Homekit until IOS13.

I think some of your expectations are a little high.

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Looking into native apps development for automotive platforms it appears that the biggest obstacle is the limit on type of applications allowed.

CarPlay:

  • Audio
  • Communication (messaging)
  • EV charging
  • Navigation
  • Parking
  • Quick food ordering

Android Auto:

  • media apps
  • messaging apps

It is pretty clear that “creative uses” are not allowed. E.g. sending commands to garage is not considered messaging or search for parking.

Until the categories are expended, the plan for native car apps is on hold.

Have you contacted Apple to get a new CarPlay application category created for garage door openers?

yep, did it back in August, got this in response:

Follow-up: 742313244

Dear Developer,

Thank you for your interest in CarPlay.

We received your request but we are unable to issue the CarPlay entitlement.

CarPlay apps must be designed primarily to provide one of the specified features when operating in CarPlay.

CarPlay apps must also be able to follow the CarPlay App Guidelines and meet the requirements specified in the CarPlay APIs Addendum to the Apple Developer Program License Agreement.

The CarPlay App Guidelines are available in the CarPlay App Programming Guide.

https://developer.apple.com/carplay/documentation/CarPlay-App-Programming-Guide.pdf

I checked it out. Amazing. Garage door controller is SUCH AN OBVIOUS category.

LAME

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I bought this device and it seem to work pretty good but the simple fact after several years of it not working with android auto an CarPlay is just absolutely stupid this point. If there was any app that needed to work with an automobile it should be a garage door opener in this kind of follow in the category of Duhh…

So I’m abandoning this app all together and going with someone that makes sense it’s really stupid to go this long and not work with a car.

There is a simple solution but will require you to invest in a $5 raspberry pi and a few more dollars for an iBeacon. You place the Raspberry Pi in your garage and the iBeacon in your vehicle. You’ll then need to run some software on the pi which is constantly scanning for iBeacons. When it recognizes your iBeacon, it will open the garage.

I have had car play functions for months…

I have garadget connected to my home assistant docker container via it’s integration, using HA’s ios bridge I set it up in my home kit app…

Boom car play functions.

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I don’t think its fair to blame the company for rules that Apple and Google put in place. We need to petition Apple and Google to expand their categories to permit home automation including garage door function.

Can you post a photo or two of how you have your set up?

Thanks,
Merg

It also looks like there are new categories for CarPlay now that garaget might fit into. We really need this feature added as it’s getting more and more problematic to use the phone to control the garage.

I’ve been asking for this for a long time. It really seems like this needs to move up on the priority list also and integration with Tesla would be most desirable.

@garadget,

Any chance Garadget has a suitable category now?

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